Milk Decreases Heart Attccks

[Donald Allen]

Enland - Some data just released by the Medical Research Council (MRC) should create some interesting Controversy among medical circles. Peter Elwood of the Epidemiology Unit at Landough Hospital in Penarth,South Glamorgan,dropped a bombshell.He took 50 men who drank the most full-fat milk and ate butter )rather than margarine) had a lower risk of suffeering from heart attacks.Now has any other Hospital that conducted a study to equal the one stated above and had the same results?Because in 1929,Dr.J.E.Crewe with the Mayo Foundation reported "uniformly excellent" sucess useing raw milk in his treatment programs for high blood pressure,heart failure,diabetes,kidney disease,prostrate problems and tuberculosis.No drugs were used along with the raw milk.Pasteurized forms seemed to make the conditions worse stated the Dr. Why isn't the raw milk used today when there are so many sick children?

[abcolin]

Very interesting finding I must say, all the while many others including me have believed its the raw milk thats going to harm us and the pasteurized form is the most healthy alternative. But as I see whatever is written here is contrary to the popular belief. Does this mean we have already invoked enough damage to ourselves by not drinking the raw milk?

[HighEnergy]

Most everything I've read says milk is bad for you. Especially pasturized. There has been a movement towards raw milk, and the arguements seem to make sense.

I can tell you that I do not drink milk. I am very healthy at age 52. I take no meds and I've never been hospitalized, except for childbirth.

My sister loves milk. She has all kinds of health problems.

Now certainly, there's more to it than whether we just drink milk, but I believe that milk is a major contributor to her problems. Granted, it's pasturized. Maybe we can at least get her to switch to raw and see what happens? I'll see if she's willing to be a test subject for us

[HighEnergy]

Anyone who says that milk decreases heart attacks has not read the China Report.


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[HighEnergy]

There's a popular book that people always refer to for this arguement. the China Study can be found at your public library. The book is anti-meat, but if you really read it - the culprit always seems to point to caisen, the enzyme in cow's milk. Meat became a problem in large quantities - over 6 oz. of red meat a day.

Personally, I limit my intake of all meat to less than 6 oz. a day, and don't drink milk at all. We average red meat once a week.

Remember that doctors get very little training in nutrition. They are trained in drugs and surgery.

Stay healthy! It's the best recession beater.

[MikeJsimon]

I love juicy steaks, delicious cheese, and big bowls of ice cream. I love to eat out at nice restaurants. And I really like eating without thinking about the operations and consequences of our dietary industrial complex. But I don't get to enjoy these things any more because I read the China Study. Like Neo in the movie the Matrix, you have a choice, take the blue pill and believe what you want to believe, take the red pill and you will be exposed to the reality of the world we live in. The China Study is the red pill.

This is a fascinating book on the capitalism, politics, and human behavior that drives the food industry. It is also frighteningly insightful into the health consequences of an affluent societies' diet. I am not a scientist so I don't know if this is good science. But I did work ten years ago as a government attorney on the USDA dietary guidelines and was surprised by the political influence and acceptance of what the author would call scientific reductionism. I also worked for a man who lived and worked until he was 100 years old, and he had a dietary regime very similar to that recommended by the China Study: not vegan nor vegetarian, but largely based on plants and whole foods rather than animal based foods. So I found this book very persuasive - in fact, too persuasive. It scared me straight so I eat healthy now and that's good for the long term...but I don't enjoy it like I used to.

[MikeJsimon]

Most everything I've read says milk is bad for you. Especially pasturized. There has been a movement towards raw milk, and the arguements seem to make sense.

I can tell you that I do not drink milk. I am very healthy at age 52. I take no meds and I've never been hospitalized, except for childbirth.

My sister loves milk. She has all kinds of health problems.

Now certainly, there's more to it than whether we just drink milk, but I believe that milk is a major contributor to her problems. Granted, it's pasturized. Maybe we can at least get her to switch to raw and see what happens? I'll see if she's willing to be a test subject for us

Lipase in raw milk helps the body digest and utilize butterfat.
After pasteurization, chemicals may be added to suppress odor and restore taste. Synthetic vitamin D2 or D3 is added -- the former is toxic and his been linked to heart disease while the latter is difficult to absorb. The final indignity is homogenization, which has also been linked to heart disease.

[HighEnergy]

so I eat healthy now and that's good for the long term...but I don't enjoy it like I used to.

That's really a shame that you don't enjoy eating good food. If you were to go back and read between the lines, you will see that animal protein intakes under 3-6 oz. a day were a problem, as well as higher intakes.

For whatever reason, the concept of a balanced diet seems to have gone the way of the dinosaur - and as a result people feel they can no longer enjoy eating. I say hogwash! But I'm a rebel.

Eat Well!

[MikeJsimon]

That's really a shame that you don't enjoy eating good food. If you were to go back and read between the lines, you will see that animal protein intakes under 3-6 oz. a day were a problem, as well as higher intakes.

For whatever reason, the concept of a balanced diet seems to have gone the way of the dinosaur - and as a result people feel they can no longer enjoy eating. I say hogwash! But I'm a rebel.

Eat Well!

There is simply no way around this fact. The other thing to think about is the quality of the food you eat. In order to get a great body you are going to need to be very strict about what you eat. There has never been a truer saying than you are what you eat.